Michelle Obama

Look. I think Presidents and the whole context of Presidents are a bad idea. I have disagreed with almost everything Obama has done – and even the things he did that I thought were better than average, always have that asterisk next to them.
But only a fool would overlook how much Obama MEANT to some people. Only an idiot would overlook where we really are in history.
Almost from Jan 21 2008, I could not disagree with anything Obama did without being called a racist for it, Despite my loud hostility to GWB, who was, by any sane measure, a much worse president.
But when people say racist shit about Barack Obama or his Wife, Michelle, I want to feed them that stupid shit back down their throats sideways.
The fact of the matter is that compared with the administrations of GWB, Bill Clinton and George Herbert Walker Bush
Michelle Obama and the Obama family have been remarkably quiet, graceful and free of public dumbassery.

If you accept the premise of presidents, first ladies and first families, which I do not, but if you accept that premise, then Michelle Obama and the Obama daughters have done it well.

Their lack of drama and the fact that their occasional human derp fests never made much of a splash has been soothing and relaxing.

Women used to say: “You have to do twice as much to be considered half as good.”  I suspect a similar sentiment has been expressed among Black Americans.

Michelle Obama, as first lady did that.   And it’s a mark of how well she carried off being first lady that optimists and lunatics, about noon on nov 9th 2016, floated her name as a possible presidential pick in 2020.

Laura Bush was perfectly acceptable, but always seemed a little overwhelmed. Barbara and Jenna Bush always seemed to struggle with celebrity, a bit.

Hillary was, well Hillary. Chelsea was at an awkward time in her life and believe me, Assholes fed that back to her in box car lots.

The Elder Barbara Bush’s memory has always been tarnished for me by her idiotically foolish utterances during Hurricane Katrina.  Back in those days (1989 to 1993) There was no internet, so word of GHWB’s sons being all over and tied up somewhere in business and politics all over the the GOPs range never really got out.  In this day and age, I think GHWB would be seen as a nepotism festival, a sort of nepotism-palooza, or nepotism-themed Woodstock.

The elder Barbara Bush always seemed very hoity toity to me. Like no one talked about America’s class system, but she knew it and knew she was above YOU on it.

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So the point of this rant, the stream of first lady consciousness is – Fuck the people who compared Michelle Obama to a gorilla. Fuck the people who claim she’s a transgender.

If they have the energy to open their mouths and let shit like that out, they had the energy to try to make the world a better place, and elected not to.

There’s a hidden undertone, too, of shaming trans-people. like photoshopping a bulge on Michelle Obama’s dress is not only meant to shame her, but all Trans people.

Again, energy wasted being mean and vile and not making anything any better for anyone.

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11 thoughts on “Michelle Obama

  1. Ok, I don’t believe in government. Any government. Now that the caveats are out of the way;

    By any sane measure Obama was far worse than any preceeding president including GWB.

    What Obama meant to people is a jumble of lies, propaganda, and falsehoods deepky rooted in marxist class warfare. I fear it is too late to change the course Obama and his messinianic fanatic followers have set us on.

    The appearance of the Obamas is a lie. The media are his propaganda organ and they only covet him and his family in the best way.

    GWB could do no right where the media were concerned and Obama can do no wrong.

    As for Michelle, after all the deeply nasty shit posted about, well, everyone on the right I have no sympathy for her.

    And trans, they let themselves be wraponized. Even weaonized themselves. So again, no sympathy.

  2. I should clarify that I do not condone or endorse the bad behavior toward Michelle Obama and trans people. It is without a doubt bad behavior. I certainly wouldn’t engage in it myself.

    I just can’t muster any sympathy about it and I don’t think it rises to a level requiring us to take special not or muster a response. It’s just typical tit for tat bad behavior.

    And please forgive the typos.

  3. > By any sane measure Obama was far worse than any preceeding president including GWB.

    Um, my principle measure is body count here, and GWB caused the deaths of upwards of a million human beings, Obama was bad, but he wasn’t a million human beings bad.

    All of Obama’s advances on the front of surveillance and police state issues were built on foundations, like the Patriot Act, that were laid by the Bush Administration.

    Don’t get me wrong, Obama went in the wrong directions, but he never was able to go as far in the wrong direction as GWB.

    The bailouts? Obama continued GWB’s bail-outs.

    So, can you name a specific incident and why you think Obama was worse than GWB?

    I mean. Obama remodelled the medical system, poorly, and we’re seeing that crash now. GWB had medicare Part D drug benefits which was bad, but not in the ball park with Obama-Care.

    But honestly, while Obama’s chronic brushfire wars and continued pentagon disruption was bad, his wars didn’t do the damage to us that the Iraq War and Afghanistan did, even if you don’t count the numbers of dead human beings.

    • This is going to take several replies and probably several days.

      I cannot agree that a raw body count is the best metric for ranking the evil of presidents. But you use it so let’s look at it first.

      I spent several hours last night and tonight trying to determine a body count for Obama for comparison with your claimed numbers for GWB. Not only was I unsuccessful, but it became very apparent that there is no good data on body counts for any president.

      There are many websites and at least one book purporting to give numbers for various presidents. But they are all clearly partisan and have no solid basis for their claims. Worse yet, they often use some pretty questionable criteria for attributing or not attributing deaths to a president. This comes from both sides of the traditional political aisle. This results in many sources not being credible at all, even in actual published books and articles.

      Looking at the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts, I found Wikipedia, of all things, to be the most credible source. It’s articles on those conflicts make no claims but do compile and list in detail a number of estimates from various sources.

      The upshot is that estimates for the entirety of those combined conflicts from 2003 to 2016 range from a low of slightly less than 200,000 to a high of slightly less than 1, 300,000.

      If we hold GWB fully resonsible for all of the deaths and accept the high estimate then your numbers are correct. But I do not think we can fairly do that. Bush presided over about 6 years of the combined conflict. Obama had it for 8. So Obama presided over 25% more of the conflict.

      I suppose we could break down the estimates by years and compare them. The wikipedia article lists sources that posted estimates at various points throughout the conflict so that research is doable. And it is possible the early years were more deadly than later years. But without doing that analysis we cannot confirm that hypothesis, even if you propose it. And I rather suspect we are already further into this than either of us really wanted to go.

      So just working in broad generalities, Obama should be responsible for at least as many deaths as GWB.

      But I don’t even think that is fair. (Dammit Jay, now you have me defending GWB and Obama. WTF?) In much of the territory from Afghanistan to Syria, hell all the way to the Mediterranean, you now have a hodge podge of factions killing each other.

      Taliban, Isis, Al Qaeda, Afghan government, Iraqi Government, Shia and Sunni militias, Assad, various Syrian rebel factions, hammas, etc, etc, etc are all killing each other and anyone who gets in their way. I really don’t think you can lay all of the deaths in the last 14 or so years at the feet of either president, or even both presidents.

      At some point individuals are responsible for their own actions and these groups which could choose peace nf cooperation are choosing to continue killing each other all on their own.

      • > Obamacare is worse than anything any president has done since FDR goaded Japan into
        > attacking pearl harbor. Obama has destroyed America with it. It’s apocalyptic economic
        > ramifications are barely beginning to become apparent.

        I think it’s bad. I think it’s very bad. I don’t think it’s “There goes America” except in terms of symptoms.

        I am an Austrian School fanboy, so you know, I agree with Von Mises and Hayek and the rest that a socialized system has it’s own self-destruction baked into it from the very beginning.

        But I think that the demand for Socialized Medicine exists because Americans don’t understand how Socialized anything is broken out of the box.

        So there was a demand for Obamacare, and Obama and company, along with health insurance companies and so on all came together to make a mess that’s the worst of all systems and foisted it on us.

        I don’t think it will destroy America on it’s own, but as part of a cultural demand for free stuff without any awareness of how that will fuck everything up, yeah – it’s indicative.

        I don’t think Obama pulled it out of his ass and surprised everyone with it. People have been calling for it since Hillary tried (and failed) to take care of healthcare reform in the 1990s.

        And Health care has been breaking more and more and needing reform since Medicare.

      • > If we hold GWB fully resonsible for all of the deaths and accept the high estimate then your
        > numbers are correct. But I do not think we can fairly do that. Bush presided over about 6 years
        > of the combined conflict. Obama had it for 8. So Obama presided over 25% more of the conflict.

        In GWB;s case I am counting deaths from the Iraq War. The one HE started, based on lies HIS administration was pushing.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties

        Obama must bear responsibility for all the evil shit he started (Syria, Libya) and the stuff he didn’t take action to stop like Gitmo and ongoing war in Afghanistan.

        Note I am not arguing in any way that Obama’s a good guy. He’s not. I have said elsewhere, after three unwarranted murders of humans, my “Fuck you” meter is pegged. The only president who does not peg my “Fuck You” meter is William Henry Harrison. Confirmed lowest body count of any American President.

        But I’ll bet, if you looked, you could find some injustice his guys were in the middle of while he was attempting presidenthood.

    • Obamacare is worse than anything any president has done since FDR goaded Japan into attacking pearl harbor. Obama has destroyed America with it. It’s apocalyptic economic ramifications are barely beginning to become apparent.

      Other than that there is the race war currently ongoing and the preceeding deterioration of race relations.

      Setting the stage for the federalization of law enforcement.

      One of my personal most hated is gun control by executive order and regulatory change. We have been fighting battles that no one even knows occurred.

      The justice department refusing to acknowledge, much less investigate or prosecute crimes against whites or Christians.

      Forcing Christians to act against their faith or be financially destroyed and possibly jailed.

      Using the IRS, EPA, Justice Department, and nearly every other government agency as a weapon against his enemies.

      Using intentional placement of illegal immigrants and refugees to change the voting patterns of areas opposed to him and his party destroying the very fabric of representative government.

      Selectively enforcing laws against his political enemies and not against his supporters and followers.

      There’s a few of Obama’s greatest hits off the top of my head.

      • > Using intentional placement of illegal immigrants and refugees to change the voting patterns of
        > areas opposed to him and his party destroying the very fabric of representative government.

        That’s a pretty strong assertion. Do you have proof of this? I ask because Illegal immigrants voting is very solidly against the law and has been forever. So you’re alleging a widespread crime there, Mind you It’s not that I think Obama would not commit any crime, sure he would.

        But using illegals in the manner you suggest sounds like it would be controversial, messy, scandalous and explosive. Surely if there was evidence, it’d be around.

        Since Obama has Murdered some tens of thousands of human beings, I am convinced he’s evil, that’s not my sticking point.

        And let’s be clear. Obama said “Let’s do X.” Bombing Libya for a regime change, for instance. So allied planes bombed Libya. The pilots who flew the planes and the entire military who loaded the weapons and fueled the planes.

        And then in Libya itself. Fucknuts who said “It’s chaos and destruction! You know what would make that better! Islamist Jihad!!”

        Everyone is guilty of their part in it. I hold Obama especially responsible because it was his job to consider the ramifications of that campaign and it was his JOB to say “Wait, that could get a lot of civilians and non-combatants killed. Let’s not do that.”

        So this is why I hold him responsible in Particular for the dead people and I am not calling the Pilots names. Although really they’re adults and responsible for parsing the ethics of their actions, too.

        Back on to Topic. Since Obama has confirmed, caused nations to be destroyed and chaos to reign, with mass suffering and privation and death, I wouldn’t put fucking with an election past him at all.

        I just think other folks would be waving that shit over their heads like a flag. I see no news of any State prosecutors gathering evidence, or investigating claims of widespead voter fraud. So the whole “Trucking Illegals in to vote Democrat” thing sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.

        And not a fun one, like Grays or Reptilians that I could use in a Role Playing Game, but one of the sad “I don’t like that guy so I am going to believe negative assertions about him with insufficient proof”

        Obama’s bad enough. Inaccurate accusations don’t help the cause of speaking truth to power.

      • A) If you want to read something on a blog, start your blog and post it. I argued against saying stupid things about Melania and Baron on Facebook where you couldn’t see it.

        B ) I am writing about whatever shiny thing catches my attention. I will, under no circumstances modify that to pander to your sense of fair play. There will be no even handedness or equal time.

        I will incline towards honesty and factual accuracy where I can, but shiny things are fun and shiny, so I will probably be forced to make clarifications as I go along.

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